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Gaming in Tight Spaces v2.0 – MAX11L (featuring Corsair and Gigabyte)


Posted by miahallen on 24 Sep 2010 / 24 Comments
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Testing Configuration

Originally, I only planned to run the quad core with the new configuration.  But after having difficulty reaching higher clocks speeds, I wasn’t sure if the performance would be better with the dual core, or the quad core.  So I decided to run both configurations through testing and figure out which performed better.

With the high quality cooling, I also figured I’d be able to extract a bit more speed out of the i5 670….and I was right.  I was successful in getting the dual core chip stable at 4.8GHz, and due to the faster memory, I was able to get it running much faster as well at DDR3-2000.

So this is what the final test configuration looks like:

  • Silverstone SUGO SG05 case
  • Silverstone ST45SF 450W SFX PSU
  • Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3
  • Intel Core i5 750 at 4.2GHz
    • Corsair Dominator GTX3 at DDR3-2100 6-9-6-27 1T
  • Intel Core i5 670 at 4.8GHz
    • Corsair Dominator GTX3 at DDR3-2000 7-9-7-24 1T
  • Corsair H70 CPU water cooling system
  • 80GB Intel X25M SSD (Windows 7 Home Premium x64)
  • 500GB Seagate Momentus XT hybrid drive (games and media files)
  • eVGA 480 GTX graphics card at 800MHz core 2000MHz memory

Again, I’ve monitored the power draw throughout the testing and I can confirm that this 450W PSU is strong enough for gaming and daily activities, but not enough for stress testing.  If you’re really a big fan of stress testing, you’ll probably want to opt for a less power hungry video card.

Results – dual core at 4.8GHz VS quad core at 4.2GHz

3DMark results
Again, I’ll start with some basic synthetic tests to set the baseline.  Again, these were all done with the fully loaded Windows 7 gaming box.  The nVidia control panel does allow you to assign different performance profiles per application, so I did set performance settings for these tests, but left maximum quality driver settings enabled for all of the game tests.

3DMark benchmarking results

3DMark benchmarking results

I think the results here are fairly inline with my expectations.  3DMark03 and 05 giving a slight advantage to the Clarkdale clock speed.  Where 3DMark06 and Vantage both get a nice boost from four real cores.  This rig was not built for benchmarking, however, it was built for gaming.  Despite that I was able to pull out some very respectable scores thanks to some very powerful and impressive components.

Real world gaming results

This system was put together as a focused gaming machine.  And that’s probably what you really came here to see.  Well, it’s here….and even more than you bargained for.  In addition to the eleven tests I ran in the first article, I’ve added STALKER Call of Pripyat and Mafia II to the list.  Here are the results, starting with a comparison of average frames per second.

Game tests - average frames per second

Game tests – average frames per second

Some pretty straightforward data here.  Most games favor the GTX 480 graphics card, Call of Juarez being the only title favoring AMD by any sizable margin, however, nVidia takes a big win in DiRT2.  It’s also very interesting to see that despite the Clarkdale’s huge clock speed advantage, it never outpaces the quad core CPU by any meaningful amount.

Next up….comparing minimum frame rates.

Game tests - minimum frames per second

Game tests – minimum frames per second

Mixing up dual core and quad core CPUs in a gaming system with real world testing reveals some pretty interesting stuff.  AMD was very competitive in Crysis when comparing average frame rates, however, nVidia gives a beat down with minimum frame rates.  Crysis was really hyped for being coded to use quad cores and obviously it doesn’t live up to the hype. Of course that isn’t news, but seeing it again just continues to confirm enthusiast’s disappointment.  Again, nVidia is VERY strong with the DiRT2 test and is also very impressive in Batman.

Concerning CPU scaling, we didn’t see much interesting in the average FPS slide concerning quad core use, and things don’t change drastically here with two exceptions.  GTA IV shows incredible scaling with four real cores.  If you check out the screen shots at the bottom, you’ll notice that it appears the games makes very good use of all four threads with either CPU, but it obviously works much better with four real ones.  From a subjective point of view, the game is a night and day difference with the quad core vs the dual core, and I don’t think I’ll ever play it with a dual core again.  The other exception is Mafia II which doesn’t show much difference with average FPS, however, minimum frame rates get much better with the quad core.  Call of Juarez bucks the trend and actually looks to play much smoother with the dual core.

Continue to page 7 for Power Consumption and Conclusion… >>

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Written by miahallen

Well, I was playing with computers ever since my Dad got a Commodore 64 when I was 6 years old (1986), when I was 10 (1990) he bought a custom build 486DX33, and I was in love. Mostly back then I was just a kid playing games, but my fascination with computers had a start. Because I had no money of my own, I was stuck playing with my Dad's computers, and really couldn't "play" too much. So in 1998, the year I graduated, I spent some of my college savings to by a "computer for school", haha. It had two Voodoo2 12MB 3D accelerators in it, so you can imagine how much school work was done on it ;-) It had an AMD K6-233 that I had a really mild OC on, but my custom computer builder friend Aaron had done all the work. So I can't really take the credit there. My fascination with graphics just kept growing and growing over the years, and I was constantly in a struggle to keep my games looking as sharp and smooth as possible. OCing played a big role. My whole world was rocked in 2004 when I was deployed to Iraq as a US Army soldier. The whole year I was there I had a cheap IBM Thinkpad R40 with a 2GHz Celeron, 1GB DDR-333 RAM, a 60GB 4200RPM HDD, and ATI Radeon Mobility graphics (same technology as a 7000 series with only 16MB of memory). It started out rough as I was really into Command and Conquer Generals at the time, and the machine would only play the C&C slide show LOL. So, I downloaded PowerStrip, and OC'ed the GPU by 40%...amazingly, the game was playable! Things changed dramatically in 2007 when I met a guy named Matt while I was stationed in Japan. He introduced me to www.ocforums.com, and the "Benchmarking Team" there. I had not had much interest in benchmarking previously, I always though of myself as more practical. But, I thought I'd play along and I joined the team. My first introduction to an actual competition was was is "The Raptor Pit", "Forum Warz 2008" in the spring of 2008. I was running a Q6600 and an 8800GTX. With air cooling I was able to bench my Q6600 at over 4GHz, and tore up the competition in my class. Overall OCF won the Forum War in 2007, Winter and Summer of 2008, and 2009...that means five in a row. I was not part of the first one in 2007, but the four since then, I have participated in. After winning the 2008 Winter and Summer Warz, Tom's Hardware Guide announced they were looking for nominations for individuals to compete in their first ever international overclocking competition, called "Overdrive". I was nominated, and chosen to compete in the North American semi-finals in Los Angeles in November 2008. I was placed on "Team IRONMODS" as they only had two guys, yet three man teams were allowed. We won the semi-finals in LA, and our prize was a trip to Paris the following month, to compete with the best in the world. The following month, Ton, Jake, and myself flew to Paris as "Team USA" to face off against the best from Taiwan, France, Germany, and Italy. It was a very intense competition, but after two heated days of battle (16 hours of benching), we emerged the victors. Amidst our celebration, Ton and Jake officially invited me to join "Team IRONMODS" on a permanent basis, and I graciously accepted. Ton, aka "TiTON", is a world renown case moder, and is also very well known for some of the AMD overclocking he has done. Jake, aka "CPT.Planet", is a genius overclocker, and a really fun guy. The team has a great synergy when working together, we really have complementary styles. After winning the world championship in December 2008 things were a bit quite for a couple months, then in the spring of 2009 I received an invitation to the 2nd annual Gigabyte Open Overclocking Championship "GOOC". I would compete in the North American semi-final in LA, where the winner would win a ticket to the world championship in Taipei Taiwan during CES in June 2009. The competition was tough with 14 of the best from North America gathering for a 1 on 1 competition of OCing. But once again, I completed the competition well, and rose above the others. I won 1st place and the trip to the world finals in Taipei. My luck ran dry in Taipei where I started off with a bad motherboard, and went through 5 more during the course of the competition due to various reasons. Despite the poor finish in Taipei, I have high hopes to redeem myself next year.

24 Comments


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Craig
2 yearss ago



I just bought this case and love the size but I have real difficulty putting the top back on now I’ve installed all my components, does any one have any tips on putting it back on.

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2 yearss ago



I would imagine it can, but I won’t know for sure another month or so.

CeeeFour
2 yearss ago



Awesome. Can the same mod to accomodate the 10.5in card be done on sugo06? Thanks!

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Mr MAn
3 yearss ago



Do you get restarts on this build?

CyberpowerUK
3 yearss ago



I did a system in the SG-07 with an Asetek LCLC 120 (a.k.a. H50) since it was announced I’ve though of upgrading it to the H70. Would it fit with both fans installed?

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miahallen
3 yearss ago



Thanks for all the nice comments guys :)

Colin
3 yearss ago



This and the first part of this build blog is superb so many thanks for posting it and taking the time to do so. I am building my first SFF based upon your specs or as close as I could get in the UK :) Hopefully will go well…

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Yellowbeard
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Man, that is a sweet rig Miah! Thanks for including us in the build.

ls
3 yearss ago



With a little modification i managed to squeeze in an H50 and keep the optical tray with a slot load. Also had some time to spray the insides black. Otherwise your build is as nice as mine!

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