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Gaming in Tight Spaces v2.0 – MAX11L (featuring Corsair and Gigabyte)


Posted by miahallen on 24 Sep 2010 / 24 Comments
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Power consumption

And last, another look at power consumption.  Just like in the first article, these measurements were taken at the wall.  This means that you have to factor in the inefficiencies of the PSU. In other words, the numbers you are looking at below should be reduced by 15-20% to estimate the actual power the system is using.

So the very worst case scenario (game test) for me, with the quad core CPU installed, was Batman maxing at 397W AC.  Multiply by 0.85 to estimate the actual system power consumption and you’d find it was only 338W, more than 100W less than this power supply’s rating.

Maximum A/C power draw during testing

Maximum A/C power draw during testing

WOW….I was really taken aback when I first saw the results graphed out like this.  I was expecting the quad core CPU to always have a higher power draw….but in real world gaming, the quad really doesn’t need any more power than the dual core CPU with these settings.  The quad only hit a higher peak power draw in 9 out of the 17 tests.  That’s pretty encouraging for users concerned about the lower power rating this power supply has.  The other thing, is that just like in my first article, it would appear that we have plenty of power for general use of this machine.  The other obvious thing I learned from this graph is that I believe the 5870 wouldn’t have had any problem working with the 300W stock PSU from the first review.

Conclusions

Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3

This board continues to impress me.  It’s a very solid piece of work, well done Gigabyte.  I would, however, be a bit more hesitant to recommend this board for a power user planning to run a quad core CPU.  The boards OCP circuit does put a bit of a limit on the overclocking potential.  But if that is the price we much pay for reliability and small form factor, I suppose that’s reasonable. Especially considering I was still able to get the quad core up to 4GHz+, most people would probably still be very satisfied with these results.  To be able to pack this much power into such a small space is truly impressive!

As my second look at this motherboard, I feel it has truly earned my enthusiastic recommendation.  As the basis for a SFF powerhouse, this is THE board to choose.  For overclocking dual core CPUs it can almost keep up with it’s big brothers, and while not flawless with a quad core, it truly is impressive for it’s size.  Without hesitation I give this board the TechREACTION Gold Silicon Award!

The Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3 receives the TechREACTION.net Gold Silicon Award!

Corsair H70
I’ve only had a short time with this cooler, but in that amount of time it has genuinely impressed me.  I believe this may be the cooler of choice for SFF builds now, and for some time to come.  In a tower build, there may be good air coolers which rival this in this price/performance metric.  But I’m confident there is not a single air cooler which I could fit into this build that could come anywhere close to the performance of the H70.  Well done Corsair!  Having said that, I am planning a more thorough review of the H70 and I’ll reserve final judgment until that is complete.

Corsair Dominator GTX3 – DDR3-2400
I did not go into detail about this memory and it’s performance in this review, but I was surprised on multiple occasions by the speeds that I was able to run this memory stable at.  DDR3-2100 with 6-9-6-27 1T timings is very impressive, and to me it’s even more impressive than the stock speeds and timings.  Unfortunately, I was unable to compare the stock speeds/timings because of the poor overclocking performance of this CPU which unfortunately runs into a soft bclock wall between 212MHz and 220MHz.  So I was forced to run the tightest timings I could at more earthly bclock rates, and for this task, the memory was very impressive.

I have not performed extensive memory testing, but I was gauging my expectations based on Hokiealumnus’ series of fast DDR3 reviews.  Looking at the most recent article,  towards the bottom in the overclocking section he talks about the memory’s tightest possible timings at DDR3-2000 frequencies.  He’s compared 5 kits so far, and none of them have been able to run as tight at DDR3-2000 as these Dominators ran at DDR3-2100! Not only that, but he was only concerned with the kits he tested passing three fairly easy benchmarks; SuperPI 1M, wPrime 32M, and MAXMEM.  These Corsair DIMMs I used running at DDR3-2100 6-7-6-27 1T had to be memtest86+ stable, LinX stable, and I even tested SuperPI 32M, which is one of the most strenuous memory tests I know of.

Dominator GTX3 memory is SuperPI 32M stable at settings used

Dominator GTX3 memory is SuperPI 32M stable

Just like with the H70, I’m working on a more thorough review of these DIMMs, so I will reserve my final judgment until the testing has been completed.

Final Words

Overall I’m pretty happy with the system in its current form.  Based on the temperatures of the quad core, I think I could probably switch back to air cooling and have similar results, but the lower temps are pretty cool (no pun intended).  I will be leaving the quad core CPU installed as opposed to the dual core, particularly because it transforms GTA IV into a much better experience and doesn’t have any real downsides.  I might do a bit more testing with the HD5870 before I lock in the final configuration, but I think I’ll most likely stick with the GTX 480 for PhysX support.

If you’re interested in continuing to follow my build, please follow my build log here.

Once again, thank you for stopping by and be sure to visit us here at TechREACTION regularly for more great content.  I’ll be working hard over the next week or two to finish up the H70 and GTX3 reviews.

I’d like to thank Gigabyte again for supplying the motherboard used in this review….keep up the great work Gigabyte!

I’d also like to thank Corsair for supplying the H70 cooler and the GTX3 DIMMs used in this review!

If you have any comments or criticisms, please feel free to post below, or stop by our forums and join out blossoming community there.

Update (Sept. 6th 2010)

I finished the build last night, if you’re interested in the finished product, here it is…the pictures include the XBOX360 controller for size reference, and because the colors match nicely.  I use the controller for FUEL, GRID, DiRT 2, ToCA Race Driver 3, and Grand Theft Auto IV (driving only).

MAX11L - finished 1

MAX11L – finished 1

MAX11L - finished 2

MAX11L – finished 2

MAX11L - finished 3

MAX11L – finished 3

MAX11L - finished 4

MAX11L – finished 4

MAX11L - finished 5

MAX11L – finished 5

MAX11L - finished 6

MAX11L – finished 6

MAX11L - finished 7

MAX11L – finished 7

MAX11L - finished 8

MAX11L – finished 8

Lastly, you can check out screenshots from all of the testing on the final page… >>

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Written by miahallen

Well, I was playing with computers ever since my Dad got a Commodore 64 when I was 6 years old (1986), when I was 10 (1990) he bought a custom build 486DX33, and I was in love. Mostly back then I was just a kid playing games, but my fascination with computers had a start. Because I had no money of my own, I was stuck playing with my Dad's computers, and really couldn't "play" too much. So in 1998, the year I graduated, I spent some of my college savings to by a "computer for school", haha. It had two Voodoo2 12MB 3D accelerators in it, so you can imagine how much school work was done on it ;-) It had an AMD K6-233 that I had a really mild OC on, but my custom computer builder friend Aaron had done all the work. So I can't really take the credit there. My fascination with graphics just kept growing and growing over the years, and I was constantly in a struggle to keep my games looking as sharp and smooth as possible. OCing played a big role. My whole world was rocked in 2004 when I was deployed to Iraq as a US Army soldier. The whole year I was there I had a cheap IBM Thinkpad R40 with a 2GHz Celeron, 1GB DDR-333 RAM, a 60GB 4200RPM HDD, and ATI Radeon Mobility graphics (same technology as a 7000 series with only 16MB of memory). It started out rough as I was really into Command and Conquer Generals at the time, and the machine would only play the C&C slide show LOL. So, I downloaded PowerStrip, and OC'ed the GPU by 40%...amazingly, the game was playable! Things changed dramatically in 2007 when I met a guy named Matt while I was stationed in Japan. He introduced me to www.ocforums.com, and the "Benchmarking Team" there. I had not had much interest in benchmarking previously, I always though of myself as more practical. But, I thought I'd play along and I joined the team. My first introduction to an actual competition was was is "The Raptor Pit", "Forum Warz 2008" in the spring of 2008. I was running a Q6600 and an 8800GTX. With air cooling I was able to bench my Q6600 at over 4GHz, and tore up the competition in my class. Overall OCF won the Forum War in 2007, Winter and Summer of 2008, and 2009...that means five in a row. I was not part of the first one in 2007, but the four since then, I have participated in. After winning the 2008 Winter and Summer Warz, Tom's Hardware Guide announced they were looking for nominations for individuals to compete in their first ever international overclocking competition, called "Overdrive". I was nominated, and chosen to compete in the North American semi-finals in Los Angeles in November 2008. I was placed on "Team IRONMODS" as they only had two guys, yet three man teams were allowed. We won the semi-finals in LA, and our prize was a trip to Paris the following month, to compete with the best in the world. The following month, Ton, Jake, and myself flew to Paris as "Team USA" to face off against the best from Taiwan, France, Germany, and Italy. It was a very intense competition, but after two heated days of battle (16 hours of benching), we emerged the victors. Amidst our celebration, Ton and Jake officially invited me to join "Team IRONMODS" on a permanent basis, and I graciously accepted. Ton, aka "TiTON", is a world renown case moder, and is also very well known for some of the AMD overclocking he has done. Jake, aka "CPT.Planet", is a genius overclocker, and a really fun guy. The team has a great synergy when working together, we really have complementary styles. After winning the world championship in December 2008 things were a bit quite for a couple months, then in the spring of 2009 I received an invitation to the 2nd annual Gigabyte Open Overclocking Championship "GOOC". I would compete in the North American semi-final in LA, where the winner would win a ticket to the world championship in Taipei Taiwan during CES in June 2009. The competition was tough with 14 of the best from North America gathering for a 1 on 1 competition of OCing. But once again, I completed the competition well, and rose above the others. I won 1st place and the trip to the world finals in Taipei. My luck ran dry in Taipei where I started off with a bad motherboard, and went through 5 more during the course of the competition due to various reasons. Despite the poor finish in Taipei, I have high hopes to redeem myself next year.

24 Comments


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[...] Re: Almost there, just need a GPU… Originally Posted by dfour Yeah but would it fit in the case?? My 6950 was longer than my 5850 card and it has rear facing pci-e power ports as well. Oh! Didn't read the OP properly, sorry. Yeah I'm pretty sure the 6950 doesn't fit into a Silverstone SG05. Sorry about that. Check out this [...]

Craig
2 yearss ago



I just bought this case and love the size but I have real difficulty putting the top back on now I’ve installed all my components, does any one have any tips on putting it back on.

miahallen
2 yearss ago



I would imagine it can, but I won’t know for sure another month or so.

CeeeFour
2 yearss ago



Awesome. Can the same mod to accomodate the 10.5in card be done on sugo06? Thanks!

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Mr MAn
3 yearss ago



Do you get restarts on this build?

CyberpowerUK
3 yearss ago



I did a system in the SG-07 with an Asetek LCLC 120 (a.k.a. H50) since it was announced I’ve though of upgrading it to the H70. Would it fit with both fans installed?

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miahallen
3 yearss ago



Thanks for all the nice comments guys :)

Colin
3 yearss ago



This and the first part of this build blog is superb so many thanks for posting it and taking the time to do so. I am building my first SFF based upon your specs or as close as I could get in the UK :) Hopefully will go well…

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Shane Clayton
3 yearss ago



Everything about this article is fantastic. Simple as that.

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Yellowbeard
3 yearss ago



Man, that is a sweet rig Miah! Thanks for including us in the build.

ls
3 yearss ago



With a little modification i managed to squeeze in an H50 and keep the optical tray with a slot load. Also had some time to spray the insides black. Otherwise your build is as nice as mine!

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