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Follow Up: Catalyst Drivers On The HD 6970 – 11.1a/11.1/10.12 Compared


Posted by The Duke on 31 Jan 2011 / 16 Comments
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Conclusion:

After we running a slew of tests, we saw a pattern starting to form with all three drivers; they were all basically the same. The 11.1 drivers did seem to come out ahead more times than not, and had an extremely solid showing in the Metro 2033 benchmarks. With the 16% average increase in Metro 2033, it seems the 6970 may have a shot to regain a respectful spot among the performance GPU lineup.

However, the 6970 with 11.1 drivers really only showed a noticeable improvement in one out of the five tests that we ran. It lost the 3DMark11 test and squeaked out a few hundred point lead in the 3DMark Vantage test. The Crysis Warhead benchmark was a complete letdown, as all three drivers seemed to perform about the same in the average FPS.

Overall, we were wanting to see an overall improvement like we saw in our Metro 2033 tests. This would have helped us claim that the 6970 was purely crippled by bad drivers and that you could expect better performance one of these days. With only seeing improvement in one out of the five tests, we are leaning toward the conclusion that the 6970 may have been over hyped and is not as powerful as we were lead to believe. Maybe drivers will be released to extract the performance that we saw in Metro 2033 for other games and benchmarks, but we are not holding our breath after this follow up. We will still be keeping an eye out on the driver situation to see if there is anything released to pull the 6970 from the depths and possibly have another follow up in the future.


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Written by The Duke


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6970 vs gtx 570 benchmarks for sli/cf - Page 6 - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
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2 yearss ago



[...] in every game they are exactly the same as the 6970 release numbers. Drivers didnt change anything http://www.techreaction.net/2011/01/…0-12-compared/ . __________________ NVIDIA GeForce GTX 500 Series Owners [...]

GSG-9
2 yearss ago



@Juraj

He did not run the benchmark on GTA:IV. If he had you may be right. As it stands I believe in Crysis and Metro a faster processor would only excentuate the changes we see by a few frames.

Dragon
2 yearss ago



Not all games are CPU bounded, Some are GPU bounded only and the higher res you go the more of the GPU load it takes. this is from Experience that I have learned over the years from being a Reviewer myself. Now I will have to say I am scratching my head at his results myself, but then again not everyone going to get the same results either and his “review” was based on his experiences and his own results. in this case I say he did a hell of a job. there is no way of going bigger unless he starts overclocking, or goes out and buys a Core i7 970/980 CPU that is the only way of doing it. the 1155 CPUs are based off the same architecture as the current 1156/1366 CPU’s the only difference is that they are 32nm. ie. why other reviews I read state if you are on the current 1366 or 1156 (i7) there is no real need to upgrade to a 1155 based CPU. And if you are currently using a 1366 CPU you be essentially going backwards because You lose the triple channel memory capabilities also the full 16x/16x PCI-E lanes. what part do you not fully understand.

Juraj
2 yearss ago



@Dragon
A stock i920 is much more limiting factor than 6970 at 16×10 and lower resolutions.
Higher resolutions would benefit from a faster CPU as well.
It’s very simple. If you want to test GPU you need to use the fastest CPU you can get in order to shift bottlenecks to the tested GPU.

@The Duke
A feedback to you. I hope you take it and learn from it.
Because of the above mentioned reasons I do not consider your tests that much valuable.

Dragon
2 yearss ago



SInce I cvan not edit the post, I will add just because the 1366′s are a bit older then the current set up, they are still very much a viable platform and the preferred platform for multiple vid’s and thats been stated over numerous reviews.

Dragon
2 yearss ago



Okies cool now it makes a bit more sense to me :) maybe put that in your set up portion.

@Jural, the only thing making the newer 1155′s doing so well is that they are all on a 32nm process vs the core i7 920-960 on the 45nm. Also not to mention the 1156/1155′s both came out after the core i7 1366 been out and Intel was able to optimize them a bit more.

The Duke
2 yearss ago



The 920 is left at stock throughout the testing.

Juraj
2 yearss ago



@all
Have a look here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
If you got your i920 to at least 3.33GHz.

Dragon
2 yearss ago



Just a dumb question what was your speed on the CPU? because 5k is awfully low. My 5870 Eyefinity Edition barely pulled 4800 on a 4.3 GHz 930 and that was overclocked, the 6970 is pulling 6053 on 3dmark11. While using 1.11a drivers.

@Juraj, I agree with everyone else how is the Core i7 920 out of date? the 1155 CPU’s may be able to take the 920-960 CPU’s on all out frequency but these 1366 CPU’s still support full X16/X16 PCI-E lanes and still maintain’s the highest memory bandwidth. AMD manages to do well, but the 1366 is still vastly superior (Talking Quad core to Quad core, Hex core to Hex core.)

GSG-9
2 yearss ago



Interesting results, I expected the 11.1a drivers to run better on the 6970 as there were supposed to be tweaks specifically for the 6970/50 that were inundated from the 11.1 WHQL release.

@Juraj I don’t understand. Is it not up to date simply because it is 1366? The performance is higher than anything currently released on the AMD front. 1156 has lower performance chips than the 920 and 1155 is being recalled due to chipset errors. If 1366 is not up to date (and I am going to assume you mean in performance) then what should be used?

The Duke
2 yearss ago



@ Juraj:

How is a 920 out of date? What CPU would you consider up to date?

Juraj
2 yearss ago



Well, thanks for the testing.
Your test CPU is not up to date. It does not do any justice to this card especially at the low resolution.

miahallen
2 yearss ago



Thanks for the write-up Duke, exactly what I needed ;-)

The Duke
2 yearss ago



As neither are out yet, we have no idea ;)

Hopefully we will be getting both cards to test, then we could answer this for you.

Daniel
2 yearss ago



So, with that review, Nvidea or ATI still.
XD

I’m trying to decide between two.
Nivdea 590′s or two 6990′s from ATI.


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