Which One?

[pokher]

Hello all, this is my first ever post so if i post it in the wrong catagory sorry.Ok so i have about 2500 dollars to spend on a new PC. I got 2 that i make at newegg an AMD and Intel system. Which one would you choose out the two? here are is the hardware/specs.

AMD

1)Corsair Obsidian Series 800D Full Tower Computer Case
2)Asus Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
3)AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
4)Corsair Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 CPU Cooler
5)CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 1866
6)ASUS ROG MATRIX 5870 P/2DIS/2GD5
7)Corsair Force Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 60GB OS
8)Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s Cache 64MB
9)CORSAIR HX Series ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 1000W 80 PLUS Certified
10)Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit


OR

Intel

1)Corsair Obsidian Series 800D Full Tower Computer Case
2)Asus Rampage III Extreme LGA 1366 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
3)Core i7 930
4)Corsair Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 CPU Cooler
5)CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1866
6)ASUS GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi)
7)Corsair Force Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 60GB OS
8)Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s Cache 64MB
9)CORSAIR HX Series ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 1000W 80 PLUS Certified
10)Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

AMD Price $2,334.94 Intel Price $2,511.31

I would think that the intel would future proof my investment. but i want to hear what you would choose and way.Thank You

[TheDramaLlama]

You will get better performance with the Intel rig. Even though I hate to admit it, the 5870 is still outperformed by the 480, as evidenced by Duke's newest blog post, and the i7s still roll the crap out of AMD. [Edit: Whoa whoa hold on a minute! Apparently the 1090 actually outperforms the 930 WHAT??? Recommendation changed to 1090 with a 480.] Unfortunately, the 480 is also a power hog and runs hot as hell, so you may want to look into a water block for the card. I don't know, maybe it's just personal paranoia, but whenever I encounter a rig with specs like that, I automatically assume you're water cooling everything.

On another note, that SSD makes me want to JIMP.

Your case choice doesn't strike me as the best. Have you ever seen a full tower before? It's a lot bigger than you'd think, and is a massive pain in the @$$ to move around. I understand that the Obsidian is made for water cooling, so I understand if that's your rationale behind it; however, then you'd absolutely need to water-cool your 480 (shudder at the thought of a 480 running on air in a case with no vents designed for water-cooling) and possibly even your north/south bridges.The Obsidian is also extremely expensive at $270... Why not go for a <$100 Cooler Master mid-tower where you can leave your 480/mobo on air? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077

About the RAM... why 3x2 instead of 2x2 or 2x4? I may be behind the times on this, but I always thought even numbered sticks of RAM were always better... I didn't look up your mobo so I don't know what kind of dual channel support it has, but I'm guessing it should support it readily given how nice of a mobo it is. I wouldn't do 3 sticks of RAM, I'd either go for a 2x2 or a 2x4 if you think you'll need that much.

Sighs. Wish I was rich. :(

[Archer]

You will get better performance with the Intel rig. Even though I hate to admit it, the 5870 is still outperformed by the 480, as evidenced by Duke's newest blog post, and the i7s still roll the crap out of AMD. [Edit: Whoa whoa hold on a minute! Apparently the 1090 actually outperforms the 930 WHAT??? That said, I would still go with the i7 unless you're going for multithreaded server stuff] Unfortunately, the 480 is also a power hog and runs hot as hell, so you may want to look into a water block for the card. I don't know, maybe it's just personal paranoia, but whenever I encounter a rig with specs like that, I automatically assume you're water cooling everything.

On another note, that SSD makes me want to JIMP.

Your case choice doesn't strike me as the best. Have you ever seen a full tower before? It's a lot bigger than you'd think, and is a massive pain in the @$$ to move around. I understand that the Obsidian is made for water cooling, so I understand if that's your rationale behind it; however, then you'd absolutely need to water-cool your 480 (shudder at the thought of a 480 running on air in a case with no vents designed for water-cooling) and possibly even your north/south bridges.The Obsidian is also extremely expensive at $270... Why not go for a <$100 Cooler Master mid-tower where you can leave your 480/mobo on air? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077

About the RAM... why 3x2 instead of 2x2 or 2x4? I may be behind the times on this, but I always thought even numbered sticks of RAM were always better... I didn't look up your mobo so I don't know what kind of dual channel support it has, but I'm guessing it should support it readily given how nice of a mobo it is. I wouldn't do 3 sticks of RAM, I'd either go for a 2x2 or a 2x4 if you think you'll need that much.

Sighs. Wish I was rich. :(

1366 is tipple channel memory the 1156 is dual:)

[Archer]

I would think that the intel would future proof my investment. but i want to hear what you would choose and way.Thank You

The scuttlebutt is that Intel plans on phasing out the 1156 and 1366 soon.

[TheDramaLlama]

1366 is tipple channel memory the 1156 is dual:)

Ahhhhhh and the pieces fall together. Make sure your mobo supports triple channel, then. :)

[TheDramaLlama]

The scuttlebutt is that Intel plans on phasing out the 1156 and 1366 soon.

Intel's been pissing me off with this socket bullcrap. I revoke my 930 recommendation and go in favor of the 1090. Keep the 480 though.

[pokher]

Thank you for the reply and advice much appreciated. i chose the Corsair Force SSD because it had the highest read/write speeds of 285MB/s read and 275MB/s write. and i chose the case because its freaking beautiful. Yes 480 will be watercooling. yes intel MB support triple channel

[The Duke]

Intel rig would be the best from what you have there .... I would go 920 save some money and OC it the same ...

I am gonna say ... for that system and that case I would get custom water cooling and not that hydro. You will get a lot better performance out of a custom setup than the Corsair Hydro Series.

[TheDramaLlama]

Thank you for the reply and advice much appreciated. i chose the Corsair Force SSD because it had the highest read/write speeds of 285MB/s read and 275MB/s write. and i chose the case because its freaking beautiful. Yes 480 will be watercooling. yes intel MB support triple channel

* Grumbles at massive waste of money on a "beautiful" case *

[zanzabar]

the 480 may be faster but when overclocked it can get to 400W, thats way to much for me. if u do go NV i would go 2x460, but u can also find 2 used reference 5850 for about the same price and that is the best bang for the buck, especially since the reference cards alll do 1ghz with some voltage.

also that WD drive is slower and costs way more than the f3 samsung 1TB, and the samsung is also quieter, cooler and lower watt.

on the cpu for gaming u will not notice the difference from the amd or the intel, the amd board will get support for the bull dozer and with your cooler u should get the 1055 as the 1090 and 1055 will oc the same and that saves u $100 and u can get a bulldozer latter, were the intel will be a little better crunching and encoding but u cannot upgrade it, and it costs more.

for the OS, are u going to use encryption on your drive, most people do not so u should get biz and make sure to get the OEM or OEI, that will save u even more.

if u do go 480 and u say it will be water cooled, did u factor in the cost of a real liquid cooling system that will run u a good $250-300 for a basic set up

[Archer]

on the cpu for gaming u will not notice the difference from the amd or the intel, the amd board will get support for the bull dozer and with your cooler u should get the 1055 as the 1090 and 1055 will oc the same and that saves u $100 and u can get a bulldozer latter, were the intel will be a little better crunching and encoding but u cannot upgrade it, and it costs more.

The CPU perhaps not but the PCIe bus (at least on the ASUS) Intel boards seems a tad better and does give better frame rates in some situations. It could be an ASUS thing though.

[TheDramaLlama]

the 480 may be faster but when overclocked it can get to 400W, thats way to much for me. if u do go NV i would go 2x460, but u can also find 2 used reference 5850 for about the same price and that is the best bang for the buck, especially since the reference cards alll do 1ghz with some voltage.

also that WD drive is slower and costs way more than the f3 samsung 1TB, and the samsung is also quieter, cooler and lower watt.

on the cpu for gaming u will not notice the difference from the amd or the intel, the amd board will get support for the bull dozer and with your cooler u should get the 1055 as the 1090 and 1055 will oc the same and that saves u $100 and u can get a bulldozer latter, were the intel will be a little better crunching and encoding but u cannot upgrade it, and it costs more.


Given his budget and power supply, I hardly think wattage and "bang for the buck" is an issue here. :)

Where are you getting this magical Samsung F3 drive from? The only one I can find is the Samsung Spinpoint F3, which is a SATA3 drive with a 32MB cache. The Western Digital drive the OP mentions is a SATA6 drive with a 64MB cache, operating at the same RPM. How is the F3 faster...? Bad info spank. :spank:

Plus, you really shouldn't even think about the volume, temperature, and energy requirements of a hard drive when he's running a KILOwatt power supply and liquid cooling. You're kind of thinking at the wrong level here. :p (Disclaimer: I do not know how the volume/temperature/energy of these two drives match up.)

The upcoming AMD Bulldozer/Zambezi processors will use a modified AM3 R2 socket. Whether or not his motherboard will be compatible is questionable, although I agree that it probably will be, as AMD would be (god forbid) hitching on to the Intel bandwagon if they only supported AM3 for "one" chipset generation. (Then again, they're now at 4-digit CPU models... :dunno:)

The 1090 and the 1055 reach approximately the same clock ceiling, but the 1090 has unlocked multipliers, which makes overclocking much less of a pain in the @$$ to do. Kind of like the 965BE versus the 945 in X4 terms. It also gives you more independence as far as system-wide overclocking versus CPU-only overclocking goes. If you intend on overclocking (which I assume you do, since you're getting liquid), I would go with the 1090 for the ease of OCing. But yes, agreed, I think you should go AMD and not Intel in this case, especially given the recent socket hell Intel has put its users through. :slap:

[zanzabar]

cashe and sata buss dose not matter for a mechanical drive, the cashe is only used for writes and its more than fast enough and large enough as its just a buffer, and do u really think that a mechanical drive will go over the 160-200MB/s that sata3gbs starts to have problems with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3%201TB

on the gpu, the load on the liquid cooling is what i was referring to, the liquid cooling load on 1 480 is 300-400W that means that u need a 2fan or more just for 1 card, so to do the cpu with u will need a 3 fan with no ocing or 4 or 5 rads of fans. but 2 overclocked 5850 can run nicely on air, will cost about the same at about the same wattage as 1 480 and if u went liquid but ran them at like 900mhz that would only need a 3 fan for the cpu and the gpus. once u need more than 3 fans of rad u get into some modding and expensive configs.

and on the cpu the 1055 is fine, its not harder on the HTT than the multi, sure it locks u in for ram and NB but its not a big deal with the new IMC, and BD will run on am3 that we have now its bios dependent so im sure the crosshair 3 or another high end (i would go ud5) will have support. the amd also has a better PCI-e link but the intel has a beeter memory to pci-e latency so they are about the same once u clock the amd correctly as most reviews dont touch the NB speed but use the cpu with the fast qpi default

[The Duke]

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:beerchug:

[pokher]

Intel rig would be the best from what you have there .... I would go 920 save some money and OC it the same ..


actually the 930 cost about 10-20 dollars less than the 920, and i read reviews that the 930 OC's better than the 920. they said that the 920 got unstable around 3.8-3.9 and the 930 got to 4.0 with no problems.

[EnJoY]

actually the 930 cost about 10-20 dollars less than the 920, and i read reviews that the 930 OC's better than the 920. they said that the 920 got unstable around 3.8-3.9 and the 930 got to 4.0 with no problems.

Right, but that's only one sample. For the most part, 920's and 930's will OC nearly identically in newer batches.

[zanzabar]

actually the 930 cost about 10-20 dollars less than the 920, and i read reviews that the 930 OC's better than the 920. they said that the 920 got unstable around 3.8-3.9 and the 930 got to 4.0 with no problems.

that sounds like the original stepping of 920, everything now is d0

[The Duke]

actually the 930 cost about 10-20 dollars less than the 920, and i read reviews that the 930 OC's better than the 920. they said that the 920 got unstable around 3.8-3.9 and the 930 got to 4.0 with no problems.

i got my 920 d0 at 4.1 stable as a rock for about 3-4 months now? so that must of been a bad chip or really old review

[pokher]

* Grumbles at massive waste of money on a "beautiful" case *

why wrap $2,200 dollars in hardware with cheap plastic/generic material? when someone looks at my computer I want them to say wow before i even open her up.The Corsair Obsidian Series 800D case is well worth the 270.

[TheDramaLlama]

why wrap $2,200 dollars in hardware with cheap plastic/generic material? when someone looks at my computer I want them to say wow before i even open her up.The Corsair Obsidian Series 800D case is well worth the 270.

I see your point, but I'm hailing from a more pragmatic viewpoint. I believe you should only pay (ridiculous prices or not) for performance, not aesthetics. ;)

[TheDramaLlama]

cashe and sata buss dose not matter for a mechanical drive, the cashe is only used for writes and its more than fast enough and large enough as its just a buffer, and do u really think that a mechanical drive will go over the 160-200MB/s that sata3gbs starts to have problems with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3%201TB

on the gpu, the load on the liquid cooling is what i was referring to, the liquid cooling load on 1 480 is 300-400W that means that u need a 2fan or more just for 1 card, so to do the cpu with u will need a 3 fan with no ocing or 4 or 5 rads of fans. but 2 overclocked 5850 can run nicely on air, will cost about the same at about the same wattage as 1 480 and if u went liquid but ran them at like 900mhz that would only need a 3 fan for the cpu and the gpus. once u need more than 3 fans of rad u get into some modding and expensive configs.

and on the cpu the 1055 is fine, its not harder on the HTT than the multi, sure it locks u in for ram and NB but its not a big deal with the new IMC, and BD will run on am3 that we have now its bios dependent so im sure the crosshair 3 or another high end (i would go ud5) will have support. the amd also has a better PCI-e link but the intel has a beeter memory to pci-e latency so they are about the same once u clock the amd correctly as most reviews dont touch the NB speed but use the cpu with the fast qpi default

Too tired to argue. Many valid points. Closed. :beerchug:

[pokher]

@ TheDramaLlama and all who replied

Thank you for input on all this, much appreciated. no hard feelings. love, to be loved.

[Archer]

For me it is a hobby and I can take a scrap of metal and make a sexy case out of it. I have more that I need and nothing close to what I want so; Go For It, it's all you:)

[zanzabar]

Too tired to argue. Many valid points. Closed. :beerchug:

ill agree with that For me it is a hobby and I can take a scrap of metal and make a sexy case out of it. I have more that I need and nothing close to what I want so; Go For It, it's all you:)

u pay ether way, u ether do it yourself or pay for it predone

[TheDramaLlama]

ill agree with that

u pay ether way, u ether do it yourself or pay for it predone

Lol, if you were wrong about 90% of the stuff, I would be throwing some epic llama spit at you, but you made a lot of good points and it was getting late. :P

True, you pay either way, but there's a big difference between paying 80 bucks for a really nice mid tower versus paying 270 for something that looks cool. I got a full tower as well, but I got mine for 80 bucks. I just don't see why you would pay an additional 190, equivalent to almost a 5830, just for prettiness. =/

[Archer]

Llama it depends on a lot of things. I drive an E150 conversion van with all the nice stuff. I need to carry six and I like to do it in comfort. I could use the intrepid but it does not make over 300 horses. Some things we can not understand until we look at the excesses of our life.

BTW I have seen people carry these things to lan party's.

[TheDramaLlama]

Llama it depends on a lot of things. I drive an E150 conversion van with all the nice stuff. I need to carry six and I like to do it in comfort. I could use the intrepid but it does not make over 300 horses. Some things we can not understand until we look at the excesses of our life.

BTW I have seen people carry these things to lan party's.

Heh, now that you mention it, I've purchased 3 computers for a total of over $3400 in the past year, all of them are perfectly functional, and all of them served a valid purpose. :rofl:

I carry my full tower to LAN parties all the time. As well as my 25" monitor. :)

[Neuromancer]

I also prefer function over form. But because of space requirements my bench station is being retired.

This 800D "clone" (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153) Is being shipped to my door today for $37.44 after Taxes w00t! (newegg had a $15 off promo this past weekend and the free ups ground shipping is next day delivery for me :) ) I picked up the case because it has many of the awesome design features of the 800D, but will probably be made of something cheap and flimsy. Not a case that going to last me 2 years, but then again, I do not normally run cases. Also it comes in under 19" tall so it might be getting inserted into my PC desk :) w00t!



Either AMD or Intel is EOL on the sockets I believe. The Bulldozer will be a quad channel and running something like the G34 socket IIRC. (it has been a few months) X58 is rumored to be getting an upgrade to X68 sometime in the next few months (with counter rumors suggesting not till next year). I think they are also going quad channel on their next chipsets as well.

While I agree to wait on a purchase if it is only a week or two before the next best thing is out, you can play that game infinitely and never buy anything.

Oh, and the 2x460 recommendation over the single 480. If they are equal in performance then go with the single 480. SLI has come along way but it is still better to have one good card. You will have a slightly higher idle power/heat load on the single 480, but identical load power/heat requirements between the two (from what I have read quickly) More research would be required though.

[zanzabar]

the 460 is under half the power of a 480, the 460 is about 155W and the 480 is about 325W or more depending on temps and model. the 460 also gets a better oc percent so it should be faster and cheaper. but sli can be a pain.

on the rosewill case, it dose look nice but its not as clean as the corsair and it is not liquid friendly or giant, but for a $40 case its nice

Llama it depends on a lot of things. I drive an E150 conversion van with all the nice stuff. I need to carry six and I like to do it in comfort. I could use the intrepid but it does not make over 300 horses. Some things we can not understand until we look at the excesses of our life.

BTW I have seen people carry these things to lan party's.

the larger/heavier it is the harder to steel right:D

[The Duke]

could always go with any version of the CM HAF 932 models ;)

[TheDramaLlama]

the 460 is under half the power of a 480, the 460 is about 155W and the 480 is about 325W or more depending on temps and model. the 460 also gets a better oc percent so it should be faster and cheaper. but sli can be a pain.

on the rosewill case, it dose look nice but its not as clean as the corsair and it is not liquid friendly or giant, but for a $40 case its nice



the larger/heavier it is the harder to steel right:D

Hell yeah, if anyone ever tried to steal Dimitri, even fat cops wouldn't have a problem chasing 'em down. :)

Er, by "faster" for the 460, you mean SLI'd, right? :rofl:

[Neuromancer]

Reviews I read show the 460s using the same amount of power as the 480. Some show even more power. Guess it depends on other things though.

As for the case, I was joking, it is not in the class of the corsair 800D at ALL. But it does have some of the nice features including being setup to run an external rad. as well as CPU back plate access without removing the board.

[zanzabar]

Hell yeah, if anyone ever tried to steal Dimitri, even fat cops wouldn't have a problem chasing 'em down. :)

Er, by "faster" for the 460, you mean SLI'd, right? :rofl:

yah, of course

Reviews I read show the 460s using the same amount of power as the 480. Some show even more power. Guess it depends on other things though.

As for the case, I was joking, it is not in the class of the corsair 800D at ALL. But it does have some of the nice features including being setup to run an external rad. as well as CPU back plate access without removing the board.

i know that 1 of the reviews had that but that was the peak usage in fur mark, so thats not really meaningful. there is about a 75-100W difference from the 470 (thats the one that was the same or close) but if u kick the cpu all the way up or u get a power spike it will give u a higher number. other reviews had in game average load over a game and that had a much lower power consumption. ill find the link

here are some of the others
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/15
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1364/13/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3810/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-part-2-the-vendor-cards/8
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-graphics-card-review/11

there are a bunch others, i forgot who had the one with peak that was the same but it was a fluke, 2x460 1GB should be about or just over a 480 standard, and since u no longer have to have a POS board to use SLI it seams reasonable this time. and the gf104 should be in the gx2 of this gen so its a strong combo for the price. but so is some used 5850 reference if u can find them and that will be faster for about the same price

[Neuromancer]

2x460 1GB should be about or just over a 480 standard

Seems to be a miscommunication, as that is what I have been saying the whole time.

[pokher]

[QUOTE=True, you pay either way, but there's a big difference between paying 80 bucks for a really nice mid tower versus paying 270 for something that looks cool. I got a full tower as well, but I got mine for 80 bucks. I just don't see why you would pay an additional 190, equivalent to almost a 5830, just for prettiness. =/[/QUOTE]

The difference is that your getting low quilty built case and im getting a solid medal well built case that will last years.I bet your case is already falling apart.cheap=replace offen.You could buy three of your 80 dollar cases, and my 270 dollar case would outlast all of them by far.So when all said and done your paying the same as i am but my case looks and performs way better.Have you ever heard of ''you get what you pay for''.

[TheDramaLlama]

The difference is that your getting low quilty built case and im getting a solid medal well built case that will last years.I bet your case is already falling apart.cheap=replace offen.You could buy three of your 80 dollar cases, and my 270 dollar case would outlast all of them by far.So when all said and done your paying the same as i am but my case looks and performs way better.Have you ever heard of ''you get what you pay for''.

Lol. Right, you asked for it.

Last time I checked, even the el cheapo Emachines cases that came with my parents' $200 retail desktops are still working fine, have no blemishes whatsoever, and are holding together just great, despite being made of cheap plastic. (If you throw your case around and treat it like crap, that might be why cheap cases break for you... but that sounds like a personal problem.)

My case is metal as well, and it is by no means "falling apart." You might want to get yourself a reality check, buddy - I guarantee both of us will get sick of our cases and buy new ones at least a decade before they begin to fall apart.

Yes, I have heard of "you get what you pay for." I've also heard of brand premiums, price gouging, and overpricing. Do the names Apple or Alienware ring a bell?

Also, "looks better" and "performs better" are very subjective; I think my case looks fantastic, and to be honest, yours looks rather plain. Given its feature set (water cooling ports, etc), I would pay no more than $150 for it - a hefty $70 on top of my case. So yes, I acknowledge that your case has features that mine doesn't - but I'll be damned if they're worth $270.

Perhaps you think this case is worth $270 because you don't really have budget issues. Perhaps if I had your budget, I would be looking at expensive cases as well. I guess I can't blame you, considering you've already maxed out your other parts, so there isn't really any point in saving money, although I question the type of spender you are if you have room in your $2500 budget and can't help but splurge on a $270 case instead of just going (epic gasp) under-budget. In case you forgot, over here in the real world of limited resources, a budget is an absolute maximum, not an "I want to spend this much" goal.

You asked for advice. I gave it. If you were looking for a "compliment my badass expensive computer" forum, you came to the wrong place, buddy. You post your rig here asking for opinions, you'd better be prepared to get judged.

[pokher]

Lol. Right, you asked for it.

Last time I checked, even the el cheapo Emachines cases that came with my parents' $200 retail desktops are still working fine, have no blemishes whatsoever, and are holding together just great, despite being made of cheap plastic. (If you throw your case around and treat it like crap, that might be why cheap cases break for you... but that sounds like a personal problem.)

My case is metal as well, and it is by no means "falling apart." You might want to get yourself a reality check, buddy - I guarantee both of us will get sick of our cases and buy new ones at least a decade before they begin to fall apart.

Yes, I have heard of "you get what you pay for." I've also heard of brand premiums, price gouging, and overpricing. Do the names Apple or Alienware ring a bell?

Also, "looks better" and "performs better" are very subjective; I think my case looks fantastic, and to be honest, yours looks rather plain. Given its feature set (water cooling ports, etc), I would pay no more than $150 for it - a hefty $70 on top of my case. So yes, I acknowledge that your case has features that mine doesn't - but I'll be damned if they're worth $270.

Perhaps you think this case is worth $270 because you don't really have budget issues. Perhaps if I had your budget, I would be looking at expensive cases as well. I guess I can't blame you, considering you've already maxed out your other parts, so there isn't really any point in saving money, although I question the type of spender you are if you have room in your $2500 budget and can't help but splurge on a $270 case instead of just going (epic gasp) under-budget. In case you forgot, over here in the real world of limited resources, a budget is an absolute maximum, not an "I want to spend this much" goal.

You asked for advice. I gave it. If you were looking for a "compliment my badass expensive computer" forum, you came to the wrong place, buddy. You post your rig here asking for opinions, you'd better be prepared to get judged.


Your right, I ask for advice not criticism.And like you said you would also would be buying a case like mine if you had the money,right.And for the the money part, it took me a year to save 2500 dollars.So yeah im getting the 270 case and besides its future proof with the watercooling.For the, ''and to be honest, yours looks rather plain'' Im a grow ass man I have no need for fancy design or cool colors.

[TheDramaLlama]

Your right i ask for advice not criticism.And like you said you would also would be buying a case like mine if you had the money,right.And for the the money part, it took me a year to save 2500 dollars.So yeah im getting the 270 and besides its future proof with the watercooling.

My words: True, you pay either way, but there's a big difference between paying 80 bucks for a really nice mid tower versus paying 270 for something that looks cool. I got a full tower as well, but I got mine for 80 bucks. I just don't see why you would pay an additional 190, equivalent to almost a 5830, just for prettiness.

Your reply: The difference is that your getting low quilty built case and im getting a solid medal well built case that will last years.I bet your case is already falling apart.cheap=replace offen.You could buy three of your 80 dollar cases, and my 270 dollar case would outlast all of them by far.So when all said and done your paying the same as i am but my case looks and performs way better.Have you ever heard of ''you get what you pay for''.

Attitude is met with attitude in my books. If I was really trying to criticize you in my first post, you would damn well know.

I would not buy a case like yours, I would look at more expensive cases in the $150 range, where I believe the price-to-value ratio drops off.

I didn't want to go here, but you're really asking for it now. I've been nice to you in every thread you've started, but this attitude is really getting to me. If it took you a year to save up $2500, you're most likely a teenager working a minimum-wage job or something like that. No offense meant, of course; I did the same when I was in high school. It's admirable of you to have saved up your own money and worked for this computer, but this is advice I have from my own experiences.

If I were in your position, I would spend $150 to get a nice case that supports water cooling and looks decent. Then I would take the $120 I saved, invite some friends over, and throw an epic party to celebrate.

Think that over. Of course you don't have to do that, nor am I pressuring you to do it. But I think my point is clear. Some things are worth spending on, and some things aren't.

My rig (my signature), for example, cost me $1000. I could have afforded a $5000 rig if I wanted to with the money I'm earning this summer. However, I'm saving the rest to pay for dates, hanging out, books, and food for the upcoming college fall semester. My parents would perfectly well pay for books and food if I had no money. But I do have money, and I'm choosing to spread it between two different things that are important to me - gaming and my education.

[pokher]

''hangin out, books, food''lmfao. little boy/girl thats what ya'll do with your money you earn? I got a family to take care of, a wife, 3 kids,2 cars and a house to pay for, not including all the other bills.you go relax in your room and collect your allowance.And for the ''attitude is met with attitude in my book''???? When I posted the thread your First post was criticism.get it str8.

[TheDramaLlama]

''hangin out, books, food''lmfao little boy/girl, thats what ya'll do with your money you earn? I got a family to take care of a wife, 3 kids,2 cars and a house to pay for, not including all the other bills.you go relax in your room and collect your allowance.

Sigh... Allow me to reiterate. I have a job and am paying for my college education. In case you forgot, that runs about $40k a year.

Oh, and I'm sorry that I mistook your grammar for a teenager's. My mistake. :rofl:

If you're a "grow ass man [sic]," you should have the mental competency to recognize when you're wasting money splurging $270 on a case for an expensive hobby when you should be putting it in a retirement account or, as you so aptly put it, using it to take care of your family.

[The Duke]

Keep it civil and on topic please or the thread will be shut down.


Also, I seem to have lost which case you are even buying now. Still the 800d?

[pokher]

I got banks accounts open for collage,retirement and saving and thats where the 2500 came from saving.See after putting money away for collage and retirment, and paying all the bills i have 2500 dollars to spend on myself (year of saving)..My family well taking care of, spoiled if you ask me. your right lets keep it civil.

[The Duke]

Also, I seem to have lost which case you are even buying now. Still the 800d?

*cough* *cough*

[pokher]

Even tho TheDramaLlama and I had a few words at each other, I still like him and have no hard feelings.He said what he had to and vice versa its over/done with lets move on.Much Luv TheDramaLlama! Hope we can still be friends.

[Archer]

Keep it civil and on topic please or the thread will be shut down.

+1 I have been busy and did not have time to check up. My apologies.

If the two you wish to debate this and feel that it can bear fruit I will hook you up with the flame chamber to hash it out.

[pokher]

neuromancer whats the 800D clone? and lmao at Archer, naw we good its over.

[Archer]

I was just offering.

[pokher]

Oh yeah im still getting the 800D, or i might go with 700D. Its 50 cheaper but dont have the see though side.but in my case the 800D might be better cuz who wants to hide that kind of hardware not me.

[TheDramaLlama]

No worries, we're cool. After all, it's still your purchase, haha. I just tend to get worked up about this stuff. :facepalm:

That $40k referred to the cost of college, not the earnings afterwards, haha. We should remove the ability to edit posts, it gets so confusing to follow threads. :confused:

Haha, Archer, we have a flame chamber???

Pokher, ironically enough, I'd get the 800D over the 700D as well. With a liquid cooled setup, a 480GTX, and a 1090, why in the world would you want a case without a window? :rofl:

[Archer]

http://www.techreaction.net/forums/group.php?groupid=3

DA Rulzez:) :http://www.techreaction.net/forums/showthread.php?t=373

[TheDramaLlama]

Rofl. We should have more ... vigorous ... smilies in the flame threads. :DDDDDDD

[The Duke]

http://www.techreaction.net/forums/group.php?groupid=3

DA Rulzez:) :http://www.techreaction.net/forums/showthread.php?t=373

:rofl:

http://images.clipartof.com/small/24771-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-White-Character-Sitting-In-A-Directors-Chair-Holding-A-Soda-And-Eating-Movie-Popcorn.jpg

I am ready
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[TheDramaLlama]

LOL. Looks like C3PO. :D

[The Duke]

ya ... did a quick search and this was the first one I found with a chair and popcorn in it :)

[Archer]

Well the good news is we really don't have crappers and flamers here so it has never been used.

[TheDramaLlama]

DUKE OMFGBBQ TAKE A SCREENSHOT NOW YOU HAVE 1337 POSTS.

[The Duke]

DUKE OMFGBBQ TAKE A SCREENSHOT NOW YOU HAVE 1337 POSTS.

Lmao! nice eyes there :claps:


there you go ... it has been captured so everyone can hang it up on their walls or put as desktop backgrounds. :poke:


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