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		<title>[Blog] 5770 CF vs. 5870 &#8211; Game Performance Comparison</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wez</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pair of ATI 5770 1Gb in Crossfire vs. a single ATI 5870 1Gb. One could call it a fair fight considering the price point of both  setups. They will be put through their paces in some of today&#8217;s game titles&#8230;
Test Setup
Hardware

 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
 CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE (4,2GHz CORE/2,9GHz IMC)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A pair of ATI 5770 1Gb in Crossfire vs. a single ATI 5870 1Gb. One could call it a fair fight considering the price point of both  setups. They will be put through their paces in some of today&#8217;s game titles&#8230;</strong></p>
<p><strong>Test Setup</strong></p>
<p><strong>Hardware</strong></p>
<ul>
<li> Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P</li>
<li> CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE (4,2GHz CORE/2,9GHz IMC)</li>
<li> RAM: 2x 2GB OCZ Platinum (1550MHz 6-6-6)</li>
<li> Monitor: LG W2600HP-BF 1920&#215;1200 pixels</li>
<li> GPU: Two ATI HD 5770 1Gb (Crossfire) &amp; one ATI HD 5870 1Gb</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Software</strong></p>
<ul>
<li> MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit</li>
<li> Catalyst 10.3 February preview (driver package 8.71.3-100205a-095620E)</li>
<li> Fraps</li>
<li> Battlefield Bad Company 2</li>
<li> Aliens vs. Predator</li>
<li> Borderlands</li>
<li> Half Life 2</li>
<li> Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2</li>
</ul>
<p>The FPS where recorded over a 20 second period using Fraps. Multiple runs where completed for each game, and the average values where then calculated for each game and GPU setup. Vertical Sync where disabled for all tests. And the highest possible quality settings where used, unless else is noted.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Battlefield &#8211; Bad Company 2<br />
</strong><em>1920&#215;1200, 8x MSAA, 16x AF, HBAO, DX11</em><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/BFBC2.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5290" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/BFBC2-300x187.png" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5285" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2.png" alt="" width="577" height="337" /></a><em>(x-axis = seconds, y-axis = fps)</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty close, but the 5870 managed to push out a few more FPS. Very much playable on both setups. But guess a few more FPS could always be desired for online play.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Aliens vs. Predator<br />
</strong><em>1920&#215;1200, 16x AF, DX11</em><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AvP.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5297" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/AvP-300x187.png" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Aliens-vs.-Predator.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5284" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Aliens-vs.-Predator.png" alt="" width="577" height="337" /></a><em>(x-axis = seconds, y-axis = fps)</em></p>
<p>At a first glimpse this looks like extremely poor, or no Crossfire support at all. However, I made sure that both 5770 GPU’s where active during testing. And after some additional research, this does indeed seem to be a reasonable result in AvP on two crossfired 5770s&#8230;  The 5870 is really flexing its muscles in this one!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Borderlands</strong><br />
<em>1920&#215;1200, 16x AF</em><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Borderlands1.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5291" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Borderlands1-300x187.png" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Borderlands.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5286" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Borderlands.png" alt="" width="577" height="337" /></a><em>(x-axis = seconds, y-axis = fps)</em></p>
<p>I where not able to bypass a FPS limit of 62 in this game. But decided to include the chart anyway, as both card setups stayed under that limit most of the time.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Half Life 2<br />
</strong><em>1920&#215;1200, 4x MSAA, 16x AF</em><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HL2.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5298" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HL2-300x187.png" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/HL2.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5287" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/HL2.png" alt="" width="577" height="337" /></a><em>(x-axis = seconds, y-axis = fps)</em></p>
<p>Both setups managed to push out a healthy amount of pixels. And still, quite impressive graphics for such a old title!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Call of Duty &#8211; Modern Warfare 2<br />
</strong><em>1920&#215;1200, 4x AA, &#8220;Extra&#8221;</em><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MW21.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5292" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MW21-300x187.png" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MW2.png" rel="lightbox[5283]"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5288" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MW2.png" alt="" width="577" height="337" /></a><em>(x-axis = seconds, y-axis = fps)</em></p>
<p>Towards the end of the run when things heat up a little, the crossfired pair of 5770s closed the gap to their bigger brother. But the 5870 is still a head nonetheless.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Quick Final Thoughts</strong><br />
Well there isn&#8217;t much to say really. But if you have plans to grab one of these cards, then go for the 5870 if you can. But a pair of 5770s is still to be counted on, and it has proven to be a very potent setup. Nonetheless fun for the tinkerer! But I bet two 5870s is even more fun&#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Be sure to check out TestFreaks for more expert reviews on the <a href="http://www.testfreaks.com/graphics-cards/ati-radeon-hd-5770/" target="_blank">Radeon HD5770</a> &#038; <a href="http://www.testfreaks.com/graphics-cards/ati-radeontm-hd-5870/" target="_blank">HD5870</a>.</strong></p>
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		<title>E8400 and Qx9650 Battle Windows 7, Windows XP, and Eachother : Who or What Will Reign Supreme? Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Duke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What will we cover in this installment of our adventure into figuring out all this &#8216;he said, she said&#8217; mumbo jumbo? I will be exploring the STOCK  e8400 and how it handles windows XP and windows 7. Do you lose a lot of performance by upgrading? We will find out later on. Is there a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will we cover in this installment of our adventure into figuring out all this &#8216;he said, she said&#8217; mumbo jumbo? I will be exploring the STOCK  e8400 and how it handles windows XP and windows 7. Do you lose a lot of performance by upgrading? We will find out later on. Is there a huge difference in anything the 2 operating systems do or is everything negligible? Hopefully we will find out later on. This segment could prove very informative for the average computer user who does not overclock 24/7 or does not overclock at all and just runs everything stock and just has questions about how it would effect their stock system.</p>
<p>First off, a recap of the system that the tests will be run under:<br />
<strong>E8400/ QX9650</strong> //\\ <span style="color: #33cccc">Fuzion V2 Water Cooled</span><br />
<strong>ASUS Maximus 2 Formula P45</strong> //\\ <span style="color: #33cccc">Swiftech MCR320 tri rad</span><br />
<strong>PC Power and Cooling 750quad</strong> //\\ <span style="color: #33cccc">Swiftech MCP655 pump</span><br />
<strong>BFG GTX 280 1GB</strong> //\\<span style="color: #00ffff"> Danger Den DD-Tieton Water Cooled</span><br />
<strong>2&#215;2 GB Corsair Dominators Creative SupremeFX X-Fi</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #339966">Windows XP SP3 //\\ Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit</span><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Picture-0021.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-3024" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Picture-0021-1024x768.jpg" alt="Darkness Falls" width="258" height="194" /></a></p>
<p>Now lets dive into this picture crazed explanation of everything that is going on with the 2 different operating systems.</p>
<p>First off lets get the<span style="color: #ff0000"><strong> E8400 STOCK XP</strong></span> photos rolling:<br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark01.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3025 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark01.JPG" alt="3dmark01" width="218" height="146" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark06.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3026 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark06.JPG" alt="3dmark06" width="272" height="326" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gun-metal-11.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3033 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Cinebench-tests2.JPG" alt="Cinebench tests" width="100" height="245" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gun-metal-11.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3034 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gun-metal-11-1024x768.jpg" alt="gun metal 1" width="258" height="194" /></a><br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3035 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark.JPG" alt="pcmark" width="391" height="318" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3036 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m-1024x377.jpg" alt="super pi 1m" width="491" height="181" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-32m.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3037 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-32m-1023x391.jpg" alt="super pi 32m" width="430" height="165" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/meta-bench1.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3038 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/meta-bench1.JPG" alt="meta bench" width="302" height="238" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Wprime-tests.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3047 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Wprime-tests.JPG" alt="Wprime tests" width="341" height="196" /></a></p>
<p>Alright for now that should be good for the XP. No worries, for all you picture lovers I have plenty more! For now, we will start with these.</p>
<p>Now lets see the <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">E8400 STOCK Win7</span></strong> photos:<br />
<a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark011.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3039 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark011.JPG" alt="3dmark01" width="313" height="207" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark061.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3040 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark061.JPG" alt="3dmark06" width="272" height="328" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Cinebench.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3041 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Cinebench.JPG" alt="Cinebench" width="142" height="329" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gunmetal.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3042 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gunmetal-1024x682.jpg" alt="gunmetal" width="430" height="286" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark05.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3043 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark05.JPG" alt="pcmark05" width="389" height="322" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3044 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m-1024x362.jpg" alt="super pi 1m" width="491" height="174" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi32m.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-large wp-image-3045 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi32m-1024x360.jpg" alt="super pi32m" width="430" height="151" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wprime.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3046 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wprime.JPG" alt="wprime" width="349" height="202" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/metabench.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="size-full wp-image-3050 alignnone" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/metabench.jpg" alt="metabench" width="308" height="241" /></a></p>
<p>Tired of looking at pictures yet? Just be glad you did not have to take them all! I have a lot more pics with different tests, I think I will save them for something else or a different segment. Well, now that everyones eyes are burning from all those pictures lets talk numbers and what all we see there.</p>
<p>If you bothered to look at all those pictures and compare them with their counterpart from the opposite OS, you probably noticed the same thing I did.  Windows XP seems to have some higher scores over all in the world that is benching. However, Win7 does hold its own in a few benchmarks. So if you are a striving world overclocking champion or &#8216;Mr. I run stock benches&#8217; you would most likely want to stay away from Windows 7. Now note I did not go into Windows 7 and dumb it down(nor did i do that in WinXP). By that i mean, go in and turn everything off that does not need to be run or turn off any extra gadgits or things of that nature. This is a stock Windows 7, everything you would see when you first install it is what I ran my benchmarks on. So maybe if you really care and want to get the most out of your benchmarks you could spend an extra 30 minutes or an hour cleaning out everything you do not want running. However, if you were going to do that then why even upgrade in the first place. Am I right? Well of course I am right!</p>
<p>Lets toss out a few examples of what I am talking about when I say WinXP, for the most part, is faster with the benchmarks than Win7.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong>Super PI 1M/32M</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600"><strong>XP</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m1.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3067" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m1-1024x377.jpg" alt="super pi 1m" width="294" height="109" /><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3068" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-32m1-1023x391.jpg" alt="super pi 32m" width="294" height="113" /></a><br />
</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600"><strong>Win7</strong></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m1.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3069" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi-1m1-1024x362.jpg" alt="super pi 1m" width="294" height="104" /></a><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi32m1.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3070" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/super-pi32m1-1024x360.jpg" alt="super pi32m" width="294" height="104" /></a></p>
<p>Did you happen to see the Super PI results?  In the overclocking community, the standard program provides a benchmark for enthusiasts to compare world record pi calculation times. With Super PI running on WinXP I had times of 16.516s in the 1M calculation and 16 minutes 13.390s in the 32M calculation. When we take a gander at Win7 Super PI results which were 15.643s in 1M and 15m 38.845s in 32M. This seems to be the one anomaly in my testing. Super PI runs noticeably quicker, for the experienced benchmark person, in Win7 than in WinXP. Is it just my system or possible a lucky stretch where my CPU felt frisky? I am not sure but I ran the tests a couple times and took the lowest run on each just to be sure once i saw this outcome. I guess if my tests hold true all the Super PI guys should be installing Win7 right about now!</p>
<p>Now on the flip side, tests like 3dmark01, pcmark05, and the Gun Metal benchmark you can see that XP has taken the advantage with the higher scores.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong>3dMark01</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"> <span style="color: #ff6600"> XP</span> <span style="color: #ff6600"> </span></span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><strong><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark013.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3072" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark013.JPG" alt="3dmark01" width="218" height="146" /></a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: #ff6600"> Win7</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"> </span></strong></span><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark013.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong></strong></span></a><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"> </span></strong></span><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark013.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark013.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3071" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/3dmark012.JPG" alt="3dmark01" width="219" height="145" /></a></span></strong></span></a></p>
<p>The 3dmark01 showdown proved WinXP to be the victor. WinXP beat Win7 by an impressive 14,552 points by scoring 59087 to Win7&#8217;s lonely 44535 mark. I was really shocked by this one and yes I had to run the tests again because I wanted to make sure and got pretty much the same numbers. Take note for all you 3dmark01 benchers this could be your answer to high scores! So chalk one up for WinXP.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffff00">PcMark05</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"> <span style="color: #ff6600"> XP </span> </span></strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong></strong></span><strong><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark051.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3073" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark1.JPG" alt="pcmark" width="274" height="223" /></a></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"> <span style="color: #ff6600"> Win7</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark051.JPG" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3074" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/pcmark051.JPG" alt="pcmark05" width="272" height="225" /></a><br />
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<p>Now with the PCmark05 it was closer, but once again Win7 just barely edges out WinXP with scores of 9018 to 8843 respectively. This I would say could be called a tie since its only 175 point difference so either way nothing extremely eye popping about it.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong>Gun Metal Benchmark</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600"><strong>XP </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gunmetal1.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3075" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gun-metal-12-1024x768.jpg" alt="gun metal 1" width="221" height="166" /></a></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff6600"><strong> Win7<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff6600"><strong><a href="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gunmetal1.jpg" rel="lightbox[3048]"><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3076" src="http://www.techreaction.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/gunmetal1-1024x682.jpg" alt="gunmetal" width="243" height="162" /> </a><br />
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<p>The Gun Metal Benchmark you can see for WinXP the FPS marks were Min. 46.44 Avg. 86.81 Max. 142.15 and Win7&#8217;s FPS marks were Min. 40.20 AVG. 50.95 Max. 71.57. I would call this a substantial increase especially if your system is just barely getting by in some games. With a higher minimum frame rate you will cut out the lag spikes that can hit when something intense comes across with the game you are playing. AVG frame rate is another part i consider important because this is mostly your running around doing whatever you want. If it is decently high you will enjoy a lag free environment and therefore better enjoy your game, but if your AVG frame rate is low then I am sure you will not be happy with how the game is playing on your system. Once again WinXP i would say impressively takes the lead on this test also.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ffff00"><strong>Part 2 Conclusion:</strong></span></p>
<p>To conclude what you have seen above, unless you are &#8216;that&#8217; guy who jumps to the wrap up instead of reading. As you saw for the most part WinXP right now is ahead by, I would call it, a slight margin. Considering Win7 actually won a benchmark and a pretty important one to boot, I can not sit here and say right now that WinXP is dominating Win7. However, I can say from the looks of it, that it really depends on what you would like to do with your computer. If you are a benching guru or if you are a gaming guru you probably just took 2 different conclusions from this section. Right now I will say that WinXP does have a noticeable advantage in the gaming arena. That is something to keep in mind when choosing your operating system. Win7 does put up a decent, shall I say a better fight, when it comes to CPU benchmarks leaving the GFX stuff alone. This is another thing to keep in mind while considering what you want to do with your computer.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Part 3 Teaser</strong></span></p>
<p>Part 3 will cover the E8400 overclocked in WinXP and Win7. I split it up from this one because there is a ton of pictures  already and did not want to bore you with them. So I chose to split them to make things a little more entertaining and not a chore to read. You can thank me later!</p>
<p>Also, a little news update. The QX9650 is in the mail today so I should have that Monday or Tuesday so I can start overclocking and benching that bad boy later in the week.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #00ff00"><strong>Cheers!</strong></span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goal with this multi allotment bloodbath of tests, benches, overclocks, and all out mayhem is to explore an assortment of questions and myths and all around shenanigans accompanied with all the above. Now you may be sitting there thinking, &#8220;Well Duke no one cares about old 775 socket CPUs and for sure don&#8217;t care about reviews they have seen on other sites.&#8221; For you I say people do care, my fan club cares, and I care. This review will cover many questions and one being is it worth it to upgrade and would the be the best thing to upgrade on a limited budget. Now you may say, &#8220;But Duke why spend $300 on a chip when you can spend $5-600 on an I3/I5/I7 system.&#8221; I would say that there are a lot of people who do not or can not upgrade to the newest tech every time it is released and therefore the $300 on a possibly amazing chip would be as far as they would go (we shall see in a later segment of the review,  so stay tuned) Then you may say, &#8220;But Duke Windows 7 is just another measly operating system why do you care?&#8221;  First off I would back hand you for questioning me so many times and ask if you are a MAC fanboy. Secondly I would say that it may or may not be another measly operating system. It could be the best thing since sliced bread. It could also be the worst thing since Mickey Rourke started acting again *jab jab*. Who knows but I will hopefully find this out and at least provide some solid evidence one way or the other. From what I have heard Windows 7 is living up to the hype and blows Vista out of the water. We shall find out &#8230;</p>
<p>I want to explore just how dominant the QX9650 is over the dual core E8400. Does it come close to anything the QX can do? Would it justify the upgrade albeit the same 775 socket? Does the performance suffer if you upgrade to Windows 7 64bit operating system? If so, how much? Do you gain anything from the upgrade apart from just a shiny new GUI (graphical user interface) Is it even worth the money to upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7? What are some nifty changes some users my not realize?</p>
<p>Well in my multi segment review, yes I said multi segment review, I will answer or at least try to answer every question above. Heck I may even answer stuff I didn&#8217;t even mean to or set out and to try to do. The reason for multiple segments is that there will be a lot of pictures and information that would put people to sleep in 1 read. So with knowing that I decided to make more than 1 and plus I can post as I go for the most part. That is what makes it all worth it and fun to boot. The unknown is out there and I am going to try and wrangle it, tie it down, kick a little dirt in its face and make it give me answers!</p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>So with that said here is a list of my plans of action for this multi allotment review.</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center">1) I will run benches and other tests at stock speeds (Win7 / XP).<br />
2) I will run benches and other tests at overclocked speeds (Win7 / XP).<br />
3) I will run benches and other tests with just the CPU overclocked and Just the GFX card overclocked so people can see what they add separately and see how important each is to the tests.<br />
3) I will overclock the Nvidia 280 along the way and supply results and benches of its performance and see what all I can get out of the beast.<br />
4) I will provide my best commentary and hopefully some well thought out repartee along the way <img src='http://www.techreaction.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
5) At the end of this I will hopefully be able to answer all the questions and come to some solid conclusions as to whats better or is the upgrade legit ect. ect.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Programs I plan on running:</strong></span> (the list is subject to change. I may add or subtract stuff along the way)</p>
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<li> PCMark05, 3DMark05, 3DMark06, 3DMark2001 SE</li>
<li> Gun Metal Benchmark</li>
<li> SiSoftware Sandra Lite 2009 ( Processor Arithmetic, Multi-Media, Multi-Core Efficiency, Power Management Efficiency, Cryptography, Video Rendering, GPU Processing, GPU Bandwidth)</li>
<li> Aquamark3</li>
<li> Wprime</li>
<li> Cinebench R10</li>
<li> Meta Bench</li>
<li> Copying DVDs</li>
<li> Super PI &#8211; 1M, 32M</li>
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<p>I think I have enough programs to keep me busy and put out a nice overall review on everything.</p>
<p>Soooooo with all of that said lets check the system out that will be running the tests:</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong>E8400/ QX9650   //\\<span style="color: #00ccff"> Fuzion V2 Water Cooled</span><br />
ASUS Maximus 2 Formula P45    //\\ <span style="color: #00ccff">Swiftech MCR320 tri rad</span><br />
PC Power and Cooling 750quad  //\\<span style="color: #00ccff"> Swiftech MCP655 pump</span><br />
BFG GTX 280 1GB                    //\\ <span style="color: #00ccff">Danger Den DD-Tieton Water Cooled</span><br />
2&#215;2 GB Corsair Dominators</strong><strong> Creative SupremeFX X-Fi</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="color: #008000">Windows XP SP3 </span>//\\ <span style="color: #008000">Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: left">Keep checking back because I have already started benching the E8400 and I should be working on typing up part 2 in the next few days.</p>
<p style="text-align: left">Cheers!</p>
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